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Meeting called to order by President Janene Jones. Attending were Marilyn O’Leary, Kim Holt, Kahla Shigeta, Denise and Katie Drake and new members, George and Jean MacDonald, Emmett, ID, Ben and Marilyn Snider, Sweet, ID and John, Karen and Dillon Kellar, Nampa, ID.
Minutes of last meeting read and approved. Treasurer’s report given, we have $5061.95 in the bank. We were able to collect the $910.00 from the insuficient funds check from the Production Sale.
Youth Committee: Lindy Gifford submitted a letter of resignation. Now that they are in town and no longer have goats, she doesn’t have the equipment and other things needed to assist the applicants with their projects. We still have Judy Novak and NancyJoy Craig for the Magic Valley area and Marilyn O’Leary and Angie Ogden for the Treasure Valley Area, so don’t need to ask for volunteers at this time. Marilyn will meet with Lindy and get what paperwork she has relating to the program. Dallon Johnson’s donated doe had a doeling with disqualifying teat structure, so it was sold for $200 and that money will go into the program to purchase another doeling when needed. We have no applicants at the present time.
We discussed the qualifications for a doeling to be donated to the program. It has to be registered, be at least 50% percentage Boer, have good pigment and teat structure and be disbudded. Karen Kellar asked why it needed to be disbudded. All goats have to be disbudded to be shown for 4-H & FFA at all the local fairs except Malheur County. As horn set is important in judging Boer Goats and part of their cooling system, Kim Holt asked if a letter could be written to the various Fair Boards by the Association requesting that for Boer goats that rule be addressed, and eliminated especially for the breeding classes. If a 4-H or FFA member has a Grand Champion goat that has been disbudded, that animal would not be allowed to show at Nationals. Jack Walker, a veterinarian out of Weiser, would also be contacted to write a letter regarding the harmful effects of disbudding. Karen Kellar said she would talk to her vet about writing a letter also. It’s probably too late to get anything done this year, but if we can get all the documentation together, we can work on getting the rules changed.
Denise Drake said the ABGA registered doeling that was donated to Katie was bred to a USBGA buck and she was unsure how that would affect the baby’s registration. The baby could only be registered as 50% with ABGA and could only be donated back to the program if the registration was equal to the original donated doe. So Denise is going to check with the breeders of the buck to see what his parentage was and if he could possibly be registered 100% with ABGA.
Other members are having the same situation registering with ABGA when one parent has USBGA registration. The babies have to start with a 50% registration as ABGA doesn’t recognize USBGA registrations.
IBGA is dissolving and its registrations can be transferred to either ABGA or USBGA with no change in status. From what I understand from the ABGA website, owners need to send their original IBGA registration papers and a completed ABGA registration form for each animal. The fees would be the same as any other initial registration. For USBGA, they will transfer IBGA registered goats to their registry for $3.00 until the end of March. Not sure if this is for non members of the USBGA. If you have any questions, check their websites or better yet, give either organization a call to make sure everything gets done right. As ABGA doesn’t recognize USBGA registrations, it’s best to check so there’s no confusion or at least less.
Janene reported on the May 4th & 5th Show. This is an ABGA sanctioned show. Both days shows will start at 9 am this year. Deadline for entries is 4/25/13. Even though there are no late entry fees, everyone is urged to get their entries in so she can get her paperwork completed. The Jackpot for the Juniors that will be held after the open show on Saturday was explained. 80% of the entry fees plus any donations go back to the exhibitors for prizes. Kahla will take care of getting straw. For the pot luck Friday night, Marilyn O’Leary will bring chili, Kim Holt will bring taco soup, Denise Drake will bring a crockpot dish, not sure what yet. Karen Kellar will bring breakfast burritos for Saturday morning. The Association will supply pop, water, coffee, hot chocolate, tea, donuts for Saturday and Sunday morning. Any other food donations will be welcomed. If you haven’t got the entry forms for the show yet, please contact Janene or Clara. Contact information is on the SRMGA website. The entry forms should be on the website shortly.
Judy Novak was unable to attend today’s meeting, so we have no report on the June show.
There will be another Jr Jackpot, The Treasure Valley Classic, on July 13, 2013 at the Owyhee County fairgrounds. It will have showmanship, market wether and breeder classes for Jr and possibly Sr does. Don’t’ have a deadline for entries yet.
Please contact Clara Askew if you are interested in getting entry forms. Contact information is on the SRMGA website www.srmga.com
Date of the sale this year is September 21st. Deadline for registration papers and entry fees is July 15, 2013, so be thinking of what you want to consign. Notify Clara Askew the number of animals you wish to consign as quickly as you know. We want only about 100 animals in the sale and we already have 15 spots spoken for. Sales this year will be limited to registered animals. To keep the interest and prices up, consignors are urged to bring their best animals. Top selling goat last year was $1750.00 and we want to do better this year.
There was no new business, so meeting was adjourned.
Meeting called to order by President Janene Jones. Attending were Katie and Denise Drake, Wayne Gifford, Judy Novak and NancyJoy Craig, Terry Watt, and Kahla Shigeta. Also we welcomed new members Laurie & Megan Smith, Melba, ID and Trevor & Kimberly Thomas, Vale, OR.
Minutes of last meeting were read and approved. Treasurer’s report given, we have $3653.90 in the bank.
Report on Production Sale
Total Sales: $44,173.95
Total Cost of Sales: 43,100.25
Income from Sale 1,073.70 (This includes $345 from Raffle and $16.45 from donations)
Anyone wanting a breakdown of the income and expenses, let me know and I’ll get it to them.
One of our buyers vehicle was broken into on his way home and his checking account information was stolen, so his bank froze his account. His check to us for $910.00 was returned for Insufficient funds. I have been trying to collect this from him since the end of September. He keeps coming up with excuses why he can’t seem to get a new check to us. It was decided that we would give him a deadline to get the check replaced and if he doesn’t meet that deadline, we would turn the check over to the Sheriff’s office for prosecution.
Next year’s sale will be on September 21, 2013.
Marketing Report: Reference the buyer from Logan Utah that contacted Evelyn Simon, we can’t supply enough wethers to meet his demands and he doesn’t pay as much as we can get at the Treasure Valley Livestock sale in Caldwell. We just don’t have any big producers to supply a buyer like this. Most of our breeders have small herds and due to the different kidding times, it doesn’t work to try to pool for a large order. Also it was decided to do away with the marketing committee since after 6 years that the Association has been in existence, we have been unable to create any kind of viable marketing strategy.
Youth Committee: We have a new applicant for the doeling program, Rebekah Thompson, Jerome, ID. We will have a doeling available when Katie Drake’s doe kids. Katie had a question about giving back a doeling from another doe she owns rather than from the doe she was donated. As long as the doeling given back to the program is equal in registration, pigment, bite, teats and is disbudded, this will be acceptable.
Show Committee: Boers De Mayo show will by May 4 & 5. No judges yet. Janene will contact Marilyn O’Leary who was working on this to find out where we stand. We will have a Jr Jackpot show on Saturday May 4 after the regular show. It will be affiliated with the Rocky Mountain Jackpot Series. There will be a showmanship class and Market Wethers and Breeding classes. They list just Jr does on their literature, but Janene will check to see if Sr does are included.
Kim Holt and Kellly Haun put on a Jackpot show in May of last year at the Owyhee County Fairgrounds. We will check with them to see if they want to do it again. We’ll do what we can to help and it was decided that the association would arrange and pay for either a USBGA or IBGA certified judge for them.
We discussed and then decided as it would be a benefit to all our members, we will ask the Washington members who put on the Ridgefield sale and the Oct O Boer show if they would like their upcoming events put on the SRMGA website. Probably should have done it before now.
It was decided to skip elections this year as everyone attending seems satisfied with the officers we have now. The Board of Directors list is also okay at this time. If any members who did not attend the meeting have any ideas about officer changes, please contact me or Janene and we’ll take it up at the next meeting. The officers and board members are as follows:
Janene Jones, President
Judy Novak, Vice President
Clara Askew, Secretary/Treasurer
Angie Ogden, Director
Wayne Gifford, Director
Evelyn Simon, Director
Dave Poe, Director
Next meeting will be in February 2013. Date to be determined.
Snake River Meat Goat Association
6th Annual Production Sale
22 Sept 2012
Payette County Fairgrounds
New Plymouth, Idaho
Preview at 8:00 am Sale starts at 12:00 noon.
Come join us or call and make arrangements for phone bids.
We are accepting Visa, MasterCard, American Express & Discover Card
3% fee charged for credit card purchases
There will be Full blood, pureblood, percentage and commercial Boer Goats
The consigners have the best genetics in the West.
If you want to improve your herd or start with the best, plan to attend the sale.
For more information contact:
Wayne Gifford (208) 871-0468 firstname.lastname@example.org
Clare Askew (208) 278-3859 email@example.com
Janene Jones (208) 871-6462 firstname.lastname@example.org
Meeting called to order by President Janene Jones. Attending were Wayne & Lindy Gifford, Dennis & Carol Hooper, Bob & June Lee, Kahla Shigeta, Brenda Scarborough, Marillyn & Matt O’Leary, Janene & I.
Minutes of last meeting read and approved. Treasurer’s report given. We have $3996.17 in the bank after depositing the sale entry fees.
May Show Committee: May 2012’s show lost $950.38. Hopefully we’ll do better next year.
Janene has decided she can continue to be our Show Clerk if she can get some help arranging for judges. Marilyn volunteered to help her with this task. They will start right away to get them lined up for next year. Also to save work, it was decided to go with cash prizes for all the awards except for the Jr showmanship.
We discussed having a Jr Jackpot show for 4-H & FFA members. This would be in addition to the two open shows we have now. Janene will contact the Rocky Mountain Jackpot organization and see if we can arrange an affiliation with them for a show for the local youths.
Brenda Scarborough will get raffle items for the show. She said it’s important for the winners to send thank you notes to the donors so they know their gifts are appreciated. We could give thank you notes with stamped addressed envelopes out with the prizes so all the winner has to do is sign it and mail it.
June Show: June 2012’s show made $21.92. Good Job. Judy Novak was unable to attend this meeting due to illness in her family. Our best wishes go out to her. Those who went to the show said it was terrific as usual. The Filer Fairgrounds is a great facility and worked very well. They had lots of good volunteers to help with food and raffle.
Marketing Committee: Evelyn was unable to attend meeting, but Wayne reported that prices have dropped locally. Texas prices are holding steady, but that doesn’t seem to have much effect on the local market. The Market Wethers at the fairs didn’t do quite as well this year except for Owyhee County. Grand Champion there went for $900 and Reserve went for $1100. All we need is for the other fair buyers to take notice.
Brenda reported a slaughter house has opened up in the Seattle area that will take wether loads if we can pool enough together to make the trip worthwhile. We discussed the difficulty in this with the small local herds and the different kidding times. This might be something we could work on for the future.
Youth Committee: Dallan Johnson as applied for another doeling. Jessica Mobley’s doe is due in September and if she has a doeling, he would get that one. Katie’s doe is ready to breed and she has made her own arrangements for a buck.
Production Sale: Most of the entries are in and paid for. Partial catalog is on the website. It will be updated as more pedigrees and pictures are sent in.
Wayne reported the fairground has new lightweight panels to build the arena out of, so we should be able to get everything set up Friday (9/21) morning. The chute is stored at Ogden’s and he will need 4 people to go get it and set it up. Ogden’s have a trailer, also John Sargent has one so arrangements can be made on Friday to get it to the fairgrounds. Wayne will spray the pens with a bleach solution to sanitize them before the sale. Kahla will arrange for straw. Matt, Markus and Tristian will help in the barn and after the sale to get buyers loaded out. Marilyn will supervise the loading out again this year. Janene say it was difficult last year to take payments while the sale was going on, so this year, payments won’t be accepted until the sale is over unless we have someone designated just specifically to accept the payments. The buyers can’t get their goats until the sale is over anyway, so this should not cause a problem. We’ll figure out a way to split the buyers up by number so several can pay at once.
A vet will be at the sale for any required health certificates.
Wayne reported we have had good response from the flyers he’s sent out.
After discussion, motion was made and seconded to require that in order to participate in the sale in the future, consignors would need to be a dues paid member by January of the year of the sale.
Meeting was adjourned. Thanks to Wayne & Lindy for being such good hosts and especially to Lindy for all the goodies. They were delicious.
Meeting called to order by President Janene Jones. Attending were Janene, Evelyn Simon, Judy Novak, NancyJoy Craig, Wayne Gifford, Kahla Shigeta, Mary Price-Stotz and her husband Gene, and myself. Minutes of last meeting were read and approved. Treasurer’s report given and approved. We have $2935.83 in the bank.
Boers de Mayo Show: According to Kathy at the Fairgrounds, our insurance that we paid for on the September sale, may still be in effect. I called our insurance agent and he is checking on it. We may be able to have a yearly premium for all of our events, which would be much cheaper.
The new pens in the new (old) goat barn are almost complete. Marilyn O’Leary and her 4-H kids did a great job building and installing the side panels. The Fairgrounds maintenance man, Steve, built panels for the back and has almost all of those installed. The fronts aren’t finished yet, but should be anytime. We will use the two sheep barns first and put any overflow in the new(old) barn. The three barns are side by side, so that will make moving the goats around much easier.
Wayne has 40 bales of straw. We just need a trailer to get them to the fairgrounds. John Sargent has one, if he’s not using it, we should be able to.
The search for judges proved more difficult and expensive this year. The Sunday judge, Sherry Stevens, is firmly committed, but we don’t have the travel plans for the Saturday judge yet. Hopefully, we’ll hear soon. Next year we’ll need to start our search earlier.
Overall awards will be buckets, key holders, goat ornaments and small display pails. Division awards will be cash, same as last year. Showmanship awards will be grooming totes.
We will set up the arena on Friday morning and have crockpot items for dinner that evening. Donuts, muffins, coffee, hot chocolate and hot water for tea will available for Saturday and Sunday morning. Everyone will be on their own for lunch and dinner Saturday and Sunday. We will probably have some crockpot items left though. Janene volunteered Tristin to run the raffle. A reminder to those attending< please bring items to donate for the raffle. Wayne will be donating a custom made goat hook. June Show: The show will be at the Filer Fairgrounds this year. It is off Hwy 30 in downtown Filer. Take I-84 Exit 137, go thru Hagerman to Buhl and then to Filer. Entry forms will be on the website and can be filled out on the website. After you have filled them out on line, print a hard copy and mail them to Myra Bowman, 4260 N1500 E, Buhl, ID 83316. This info will also be available on the website. There will be a jackpot for wethers, with divisions determined by weight. Anyone under 21 years of age can show in the jackpot and showmanship classes. IBGA is setting up classes for wethers and commercial does so that they can be awarded commercial recordation points for enoblement. These will be awarded only in IBGA sanctioned shows. We will try to participate and include these classes in next year’s show. Friday night crockpot items will be supplied for exhibitors and workers. Breakfast, lunch and dinner will be provided for Saturday and Sunday. A suggested donation of $10 per day for the meals will help pay for the food. A donation of 50 cents will be asked for the drinks. Drinks will be included with the meals for the $10 per day. Donations are encouraged for the raffle. Notify Judy as to what you have, so she can get it in the program. NancyJoy will be making quilts again this year. A-I program: This is dead in the water for now unless we can get more people interested. It is just too expensive for less than 10 people to participate. To even get on the schedule, we would have to put down a non-refundable deposit and with our other obligations, the Association can’t afford to do that unless there is a guaranteed number of people wanting to attend. Marketing Report: Goat prices are up in Texas, kids are selling for between $180 and $250 each at the San Angelo market. Boers at the Twin Falls auction are $175 for mature buck, wethers going for $160 each. Treasure Valley Livestock in Caldwell, was good last week, but it depends on which buyers are attending. When there is competition, the prices are good. Youth Program: Another application has been taken and approved for a doeling, however, we don’t have one available at this time. Anyone who can donate a papered doe, under 2 years of age, at least 50% and disbudded, please let Judy Novak or Lindy Gifford know. It’s for a good cause. Production Sale: Wayne will not be able to loan his gate this year as he’s using it at his new place. Also he will not be able to store the staging alley. We will need a member to volunteer to store it at the their place. We can decide at the show who will get the honor. NEW BUSINESS: Evelyn Simon recommended we join the American Boer Goat Federation. The dues are $100 per year. The motion was made and seconded. I’ll take care of it next week. Wayne is going to check on a House Bill that was before Idaho’s legislature this year requiring blood tests on all goats coming across state lines. He believes it has passed, but will check to make sure and what the exact requirements are going to be. It has been rumored that the state will be getting more stringent about checking for health certificates on out of state goats. So, even though the Association doesn’t require them for the shows or sale, it is up to the exhibitor or sellers to provide them according to state regulations. Judy is going to check with the dairy goat folks about their convention in October regarding our Association hosting the hospitality room for one day to promote meat goats. They have asked us to participate, we just don’t have all the details yet. We would like to thank Evelyn Simon for hosting our meeting. Good timing on the part of one of her does who gave birth to triplets, two of which arrived during the meeting. Mother and kids are doing well. A little bonus for those who attended the meeting. Next meeting will be in July, date and place to be determined. See you all at the show! Clara Askew Secretary/Treasurer
Meeting called to order by President Janene Jones. Attending were Denise and Katie Drake, Marilyn O’Leary, Wayne & Lindy Gifford, Gary & Clara Askew and new member Kahla Shigeta. Minutes of last meeting read and approved. Treasurer’s report, we have $3413.83 in the bank, with a check for $200 to Judy Novak for a doeling for the for the Youth program and a deposit for 2012 dues.
Show committee: Dates are set for Boers de May show are 5 & 6 May 2012. No judges determined yet. Possibilities were discussed. We will go with cash prizes again. Discussion about building pens for new goat barn at fair grounds . It was decided if we could get enough 4-H and FFA members to help, we could do it. I will contact Kathy at the fairgrounds to find out what all will be need to be done. Wayne Gifford will supervise the workers. Wayne will also be able to supply straw for the show.
As Judy Novak had a barn burn down yesterday, we have no report on the June show at this time. She is fine and her goats are fine, but the shed was a total loss.
Youth Committee: Dallen Johnson is still uncomfortable with birthing out his doe by himself, so Lindy is going to help. As we need for more 88%+ disbudding doelings for the the program, a question about changing the doeling qualifications to 50% was brought up. That would open the restrictions so more donations can possibly be made. Lindy will bring it up before the Youth Committee Board
Marketing Report: E-mail from Evelyn Simon as follows:
We continue to receive calls from people looking to start into the meat goat business, and people looking for bucks (not papered, even weanlings), and bred does. Papers not necessary. We have a deposit for 5-6 bred does and later on an unrelated buck too, as a starter herd for a couple in Utah. I am looking for a buck that would work for them, he should be fullblood Boer.
A couple months ago we put together a half dozen bucks for a commercial goat operation in Whitebird, ID. We found some nice ones (thank you, Patsy & Kim!) and could have used more. We learned there are a lot of bucks in southern Idaho that should be wethers-without fail they were only a small part Boer, and that ‘back yard type’ running with a couple of family does. Afterwards we wished we’d bought them anyway, for sausage, and to get them out of the gene pool!
One call a couple weeks ago was from a man in upstate New York that will be out this way in April. He is looking for 10-20 breedable does and an unrelated buck. Papers not necessary. He mentioned High percentage, purebred, Boer cross. He used to have meat goats and family had 350 acres, and now he has young children and wants to start a herd of meat goats. I’ve sent his information to Yvonne at Smoke Ridge in Montana also. Sean Mills 315 576 1413. email@example.com
Here’s the webpage for the Meat Goat Handbook. Yvonne said they cost $19.99 each if buying 2 or more, and that price includes shipping. You can also ask her to autograph them, she did for the four I got. I also see them on Amazon, and the Goat Rancher sells them too. (Amazon would be my last choice…. to help out the goat folks buying direct from them is better) http://www.smokeridge.net/meatgoathandbook.htm
We also discussed having calendars made for a fund raiser. Evelyn has a contact that can make them for $3 each cost to us. She will find out about having it be an 18 month calendar so we can sell them at the May show.
Janene checked about the AI Clinic. Prices have gone up, $1500 to $1900. We would have to pay per diem, travel and accommodations. So it would be more expensive, so we would need more people to participate in order for it to be cost effective. We would need a fairgrounds type area. The goats would have to be housed for 2 days. A covered area would be needed to set up 7 AI stands. Janene will send out a flyer to find out how many people interested. We would have to make a $200 deposit which we would lose if we can’t get enough participants.
New Business: Treasure Valley Dairy Goat Assoc is having their national convention in Boise this year. They’ve invited us to host the hospitality room one day. The dates are October 14 thru 20th. We would have to provide snacks & drinks for visitors. In order to have enough food and drink, we would have to have an idea how many people usually attend. We could man the room in shifts, so no one would have to be there all day. USBGA will also be holding a judging certification. They will need 4 kids, 4 yearlings, 4 mature does and 4 mature bucks from different herds There will be 2 types of training, one for certification and one for audit. We will need to check & see if they’re having classes on Sunday or if that’s a good day for us to host. We also need to find out where the room will be as the flyer says that the convention is at the Riverside Motel. Janene will check for more information.
I went to the seminar put on by the Idaho Dept of Agriculture about Q fever on the 8th. It was informative in that I found out most goats carry Q fever antibodies, which doesn’t mean they have the actual disease. Goat milk can be tested for the antibodies. You would need to send it to the Dept of Agriculture on Penitentiary Rd in Boise. You can comingle the milk from a group of goats and freeze it in a leakproof container for mailing. This test costs $17.00. If Q fever antibodies are present, then a test on individual goats can be done and sent to Cornell University to see if the actual bacteria is present. This test costs $30.00. There was a lot of information shared in the course of the talk and I’m not a very good note taker. So, if you have questions, the contact person is Dr Scott Leibsle at Idaho Dept of Ag. I did speak to him about giving his talk at our show and he said he’d be glad to. So Saturday, May 5 after the show is over, we’ll arrange to have one of the 4-H buildings available for him.
Wayne will have some goat equipment for sale. Contact him for items and prices. He has a goat cam and grooming stand.
It’s time to pay your 2012 Association Dues. They are $20 for the year for individuals and $25 for 2 adults or and adult and child.
Next meeting will be in April. I’ll let everyone know when the date and place are set.